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There are 12 messages under the topic 'What is an EEC?'
Posted by : Bruce Hansen 15/09/08 4:52 pm

There seems to be an exponential growth in the number of EEC's I have just found out that a study I did for a development about 18 months ago the vegetation community is now classified as an TEC at the time I did the study it was'nt but the development still hasn't been lodged so I informed the client that it is now an TEC and awaiting his reply, will wear ear muffs when he calls!


Posted by : David Paull 01/09/08 11:47 am

Just a quick note on TECs (not EECs anymore) and how their definitions are open to some interpretation...  I was dealing with a saltmarsh issue and needed to clarify if some scattered Sarcocornia quinquinerva plants located in the upper part of a stormwater drain constitute the TEC.  (The drains are artificaily created as is the whole shoreline in this section of the Tuggerah Lake, the saltmarsh here has established itself).

The answer from both Council and DECC (Gosford) was "yes", (even though the area in question is not conducive for saltmarsh - wrong slope, to much shade and high densitites of Phragmites reed - in other words if you wanted to rehabilitate the saltmarsh around the lake you wouldn't make the upslope areas of the stormwater drains the focus...)

The reason I was given was that due to climate change, the saltmarsh distribution is likley to change, ie. move upshore and so we need to start thinking about that now ( I guess this is the precautionary principle).

So if you're dealing with saltmarsh, beware that this may also include an area 20-30m upslope from where the saltmarsh community currently is.


Posted by : Stephen Ambrose 24/07/08 3:05 pm

Posted on behalf of Judie Rawling:

WHEN A SINGLE TREE CAN CONSTITUTE AN ENDANGERED ECOLOGICAL COMMUNITY

Important questions have been raised in recent dealings with a number of Sydney councils in areas which prior to urbanisation, supported stands of Blue Gum High Forest (BGHF), Sydney Turpentine Ironbark Forest (STIF) and other plant communities now listed as Endangered Ecological Communities (EECs).   Very conservative interpretations of the Final Determinations of the NSW Scientific Committee by some individuals has pointed to all sorts of ethical issues for ecological consultants, and presents a myriad of practical problems for members of the community who happen to live in those areas.  

To further complicate matters, a recent Land & Environment Court decision to recognize a heritage-listed house and garden on Sydney’s North Shore as a BGHF community and to support DECC in requiring its return to ‘bushland’ on the basis that some representative native canopy trees had been retained in the arboretum established in the late 19th century, raises alarm bells for anyone who has retained native trees on their property, or those who have followed the trend to planting local native species.  For the BGHF and other EECs, the fundamental problem appears to be a very narrow, and in my opinion ill-considered, interpretation of some elements of the Final Determinations.  

For the ‘critically endangered’ BGHF in the Sydney Basin Bioregion, problems centre largely on Item 9, which reads (in part) “Highly modified relics of the community also persist as small clumps of trees without a native understorey”; and Item 11, which reads (in part) “A number of stands of Blue Gum Forests have highly modified understories, in which the native woody component has been largely replaced by woody exotic species or by increased abundance of native and exotic grasses”.

These extracts from the Final Determination have been interpreted by some Council officers, supported by consultants employed to support their stance, to mean that a single tree growing in a garden setting, in a lawn, or even a tree retained in a paved parking lot for shade, represents the critically endangered BGHF community – with all the inherent issues and problems that this entails.  In fact, in some cases, it has been considered that the presence of any tree species listed under a FD indicates the presence of that EEC – notwithstanding that many of these species occur in a number of different vegetation communities and cannot be considered in any sense of the word to be ‘diagnostic’ solely of the subject EEC. Some consultants go even further, and where commonly occurring species as Oplismenus, Dichondra, Pratia, or Acacia are observed growing in introduced lawns, garden beds or on disused land, declare the site to be ‘actively regenerating’ to the said EEC – describing such species  as ‘characteristic’; in one singular case, of regenerating BGHF.   Such sites are said to represent ‘potential bushland’ – which is stretching it a bit! 

Similarly, some of the older Determinations such as Shale Sandstone Transition Forest (SSTF, 10/98) or Sydney Turpentine/Ironbark Forest (STIF, 11/98) present problems as they describe the EECs as persisting mainly as “fragmented stands” or individual trees”, or even as “seed in the soil seed bank”, with “many species being absent from the above-ground biomass”.  This has given rise to ridiculous situations whereby a cleared horse paddock in Kellyville was subject to a Species Impact Statement; and where a landowner in central Castle Hill whose small suburban Lot retains 5 native trees has been instructed to carry out a full flora and fauna survey and 7-part test in order to submit a DA to demolish the existing 70 year old house and build a new one.  This week, a council officer attended a construction site in the Hills District and attempted to stop work on a project which had a Council-approved DA and a Vegetation Management Plan in place because the former pasture site retained a few Blue Gums on the perimeters of the property. 

Such interpretations and leaps of fancy obviously impact most heavily on properties which are fully developed, and may have been so for many years.  Plans to rebuild an old house on an established Lot, add an extra room or a swimming pool, or even realign the driveway now requires detailed ecological assessment, often including an SIS, and if the area formerly supported an EEC, the chances of getting permission are pretty slim.  More and more cases are being referred to the L&E Court, while DECC in their impractical way we all know and love, continue to persist in the belief that such properties can and should be ‘returned to bushland’, regardless of land tenure and existing land use.  Of course, ‘Greenfield sites’ are another matter all together, and development applications for such sites rightly should have to undergo thorough ecological assessment.   In initiating this discussion the author is not referring to projects proposed by big developers who are seeking a maximum return on their investments, but to the small property owner with limited resources; but currently the law makes no obvious distinction between such individuals and a real ‘developer’.   

Any involvement in controversial projects (which is almost anything these days – considering most of the vegetation in the Sydney Region is ‘threatened’ in some way) puts the ecological consultant at a distinct disadvantage.  Go along with the ultra-conservative viewpoint and one risks being considered irrational and a ‘radical greenie’ – and your potential client base narrows.  Take issue, and you risk being seen as a troublemaker or labelled ‘pro-development’; in extreme cases even ‘blacklisted’.  Appeals to common sense usually fall on deaf ears; and attempts to approach the problem in a measured scientific manner, or to provide a practical workable approach to environmental management serves only to risk the wrath of the conservation lobby and (not infrequently) of agency middle level management - which has to be said - has largely been captured by the extreme end of the bush regeneration movement.

While not in any way opposing the fundamental conservation ethic or the urgent need to protect remnant native bushland, I would suggest that this narrow interpretation of the legislation and the often impractical and (at times) impossible demands imposed by local control authorities are counter-productive, and serve only to alienate well meaning and previously supportive community members.   As an ecological consultant with over 20 years of on-ground bushland management experience, I would urge other consultants; council and agency personnel alike to consider the implications of their decisions and recommendations, and to routinely ask themselves “are my conditions reasonable, and ultimately achievable?”  “Could I comply with these conditions if I had a reasonable level of resources and there are no external constraints?”  If the answer to any of these is ‘no’, then reconsider.  

The author and other colleagues have approached the Scientific Committee from time to time requesting clarification of some of their more problematic statements, but these have not been forthcoming.   However, although some of the individuals involved have said privately that although the original intent of the Committee was not necessarily in keeping with current interpretations (as described here), there are apparently no plans to issue explanations or guidelines – which rather leaves the legislation open to interpretation – and misuse.

So…. for landowners, whether big or small: what next?  If and when this new approach gains currency, will we see trees on residential blocks being routinely cut down to avoid future problems (yes, you can do it, despite tree preservation laws if you are really determined), and will people stop planting local native trees just in case they are ‘creating’ a future EEC?  It seems a likely scenario; and one which is diametrically opposed to the fundamental aims of the environmental legislation.  A dilemma indeed! 

Need I add that the views expressed in this article are those of the author, and do not necessarily represent the views of other members of the ECA. 

Judith Rawling BA,DipEd,DipEnvStud,MEnvStud

Managing Director

UBM Ecological Consultants, UBM Projects

4 July 2008

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Posted by : Phil Burrell 21/12/07 12:49 pm

At the southern extremity of the old Maroota State Forest is a very good Sydney Blue Gum community, which has evaded extensive fire activity for decades, This community would not be listed as a BGHF community though, and I wonder how you would classify this area. When I was a member of the local RFS we protected this area consistently because we knew no other communiy like this existed anywhere else in the 4000ha+ of the State Forest.


Posted by : Martin Predavec 19/09/07 9:39 am

DEW seems to be dealing with this issue very well and including condition in their definitions of EECs under the EPBC Act. For example their definition of White Box woodland includes factors such as patch size, number of species in the groundcover and number of  "important" species. It makes for an interesting assessment when the state and federal defintiions of the same community differ.


Posted by : Elizabeth Ashby 16/08/07 9:16 am

Hey there Richard!

I think you really have put your finger on the heart of this matter - can we really define something (in this case an ecological community) that probably does not exist? Religions have been wrestling with this for centuries and perhaps we should take a leaf out of their book and make it a matter of faith that something that is unknowable actually exists.

Makes it hard to do a 7 part test though ...

 


Posted by : Mia Dalby-Ball 07/08/07 1:57 pm
The issue of assessment from the perspective of a single block has ramifications for how one sees the ecological value of a site. From my perspective - that is assessing on an LGA wide scale - I see EECs distributed across the landscape and in varying states of 'completeness'. Quite often one needs to look from the regional perspective to assess the conservation 'value' of a site. In some cases the block with a few trees in mown grass is a key piece linking other fragments. Other times it's already isolated and of low 'value'. The scope of the EEC listing (that is including in some cases individual trees) is appropriate providing the assessors (Consultants and Land and Env. Court) know haw to consistently assess relative value. Value is on a landscape scale rather than block by block. Councils should have the resourcing to prepare accurate regional base mapping - particularly of EECs - such that the maps can be up lifted into Catchment Maps and Sydney Based maps (thus allowing an even wider perspective on 'value'). Maps would also enable consultants, DA assessors and L&E Court to make value judgments from an appropriate scale. For now I support the inclusion patches that contain individual trees within an EEC being listed as EEC with the onus being on appropriate assessment. Further recent restoration works has indicated some EECs have a high resilience and the seed bank and regeneration potential (and actual) is high even after removing turf (depending on surrounding vegetation type etc). This definitely applies to Saltmarsh, Pittwater Spotted Gum, Littoral Rainforest and Duffy's Forest with other communities likely to also show high capacity for regeneration. An EEC listing usually doesn't mean no or significantly limited development it usually just means appropriately designed, sized, constructed and landscaped properties. Further it is the role of all who know about ecological communities to express the value to their clients such that people are proud of living in an EEC and have stewardship to care for it because they want to rather than because there is legislation requiring it.

Posted by : Richard Wells 06/08/07 11:17 pm
Hi Liz. It's good to see that others are having similar difficulties with defining EECs... To me, this is the old problem created when an intended good law becomes intertwined with bad thinking. The obvious result of such an illegitimate union had to be a real B......but, in this case it spawned EECs. Well, to answer the question What is an EEC?one has to ask how could this situation have happened? Mmmm. Let me start with an assumption that has more than a fair degree of support in some sectors. I am of course referring to the concept of the "ECOLOGICAL COMMUNITY". Now, assuming that one accepts the reality of the notion of an "Ecological Community" then obviously the first task that needed to have been achieved prior to the recognition of the EECs in law was to actually work out some definitions and boundaries that had a biological and physical basis in reality. Surprisingly, I don't think that this was done, at least not seriously and from what I can see, it still has yet to be achieved in most cases. Indeed, I think that most biologists/ecologists really haven't even got a clue what the hell is going on at even the most basic level of interspecific dependence...not least because we still don't even have a complete record of the biodiversity of any of the so-called endangered ecological communities that have been listed to date. Sure the framework is there for some EECs, but the constructs have so many inherent biases, inconsistencies, inadequacies, misinterpretations, and assumptions under-pinning them that I see no surprise in the difficulties that have arisen with their application under Law. I mean technically speaking the "Cumberland Plain Woodland" EEC for instance could be considered technically Extinct as there is no remnant remaining that is intact in its completely natural state (if pre-hominid state is your benchmark that is). But of course with the present absurd situation, even a cow paddock cleared and farmed for two hundred years and having lost perhaps 99% of its biodiversity - can still be called CPW because of the presence of a couple of pathetic regrowth moluccana or tereticornis or, not to forget, that magical soil seed-bank - that is just waiting to spring forth and return us to CPW Eden. And it's all because of how the EEC has been defined. So in EECs we have a real dog's breakfast when it comes to their application under Law, because their definitions lack a workable objective basis in reality. But let's assume that some people are in fact Gods and actually know a way to the truth of the matter when in comes to such inadequately based EECs.... Not surprisingly, these Gods are often disguised as Lawyers and Planners....with most of their Apostles secreted away in various monastically-structured Government Departments or even in Environmental Consultancies, where they await ascension to Godhead and the like after a sufficient time as Yes-Men to the Gods. Now, these omnipotent ones can be uncannily certain in their belief in the presence of an EEC in their territory...no matter how contrary the facts may be. I have always found their certainty on complex matters of ecology less than comforting. This is because I find this situation not dissimilar at times to reports of flying saucers and yowies...interesting beliefs - but more reflective of the mental state of the believer than of the facts at hand. But I do not want to be seen as just another Council-bashing consultant. No. It should be appreciated that I readily bash the legal profession as well on this issue, and I also haven't overlooked some of the biologists who have performed far less than perfectly in promoting and suporting this EEC miasma in the first place. In trying to understand how the legal profession handles cases involving EECs, I am most struck by how a little knowledge can be a really dangerous thing in the hands of Lawyer. Although it would be nice to place all the blame on the legal profession for problems with EECs, it must be accepted that for the most part, they mainly filled a vacuum created by the lethargy or incompetence of thinkers who should have performed better. So in effect, I think that the legal basis for protecting EECs was undermined from the outset by bad or inadequate science - or none at all - in the original determinations of what actually constituted the biological basis of particular EECs. Thus some legal "Communities" are in reality not much more than poorly defined biological "Associations" (or even unnatural assemblages) in my opinion. Hence, experienced field biologists are quite rightly dismisive of the biological significance of some "remnants" that the inexperienced may elevate to the status of something akin to an old-growth wilderness ! As far as the EEC is concerned in NSW this fundamental flaw in the basis of its legality assures only one certainty - that it must collapse into chaos. Garbage in, Garbage out - because to answer your question Liz...it's all really a load of crap. Richard Wells EEC (Endangered Ecological Consultant)

Posted by : Elizabeth Ashby 04/08/07 10:26 am
When working in Sydney, we at least have Mark Tozer's "rules" that we can apply - unless of course your site is so small and / or degraded that you can't fit a 20x20 m quadrat in or get enough species to get over the threshold to make your data statistically meaningful. I try and use them as a guide anyway, but the thresholds are different for different communities. But at least the information is there for us to work with and has some scientific vigour to support it, unlike the ruling on BGHF by the court - a single tree in a garden bed does not constitute an EEC, not by any rule or common sense. It does not have the capacity to regenerate from a soil seed bank htt ais dominated by Clivias, it does not have a characteristic suite of associated species, the landscape is altered probably irreversibly. How can this be so?

Posted by : Nick Skelton 01/08/07 10:23 am
Does not the individual determination define what is a EEC. Me thinks each ecologist need to interpet it them selves. I personally decided my self that for Pittwater Spotted gum forest a patch of PSGF was 2 or more characteristic trees with more than 4 native understorey species under the canopy. I do not quote it it is only my personal rule of thumb. Anything more than this i think needs a 7 part test.

Posted by : Deryk Engel 25/07/07 10:54 am
opps put my response under the General topic. Sorry.

Posted by : Elizabeth Ashby 24/07/07 5:31 pm
I want to start a discussion on what constitutes an EEC. This old chestnut has arisen because of the recent ruling in the Land and Environment Court for a proposal to redevelop the historic Rippon Grange. One of the main reasons for refusal was the presence of Blue Gum High Forest. By all accounts, the BGHF consists of Blue Gum specimens in raised garden beds of Clivia and Azaleas etc. The garden is an historic one that has been continuously tended since the late 1800s. I understood that one of the determinants of an EEC is its ability to recover and the presence of a soil seed bank. Surely this does not qualify by any reasonable standard. What do others think?



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